The Brown Derby (1929, 1940) ********** SEE PAGE 3

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The Brown Derby (1929, 1940) ********** SEE PAGE 3

Postby nichols » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:26 pm

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to find out about upcoming opportunities for you to speak out about the Derby - please visit this thread...
http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic ... 2919#22919

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Postby SDR » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:37 pm

I believe the construction (see interior shot) is a Lamella roof -- a particular way of framing a vault or dome shape with short pieces of wood. The large sheds in an eastern 'twenties amusement park of my acquaintance, used to cover the bumper cars and other similar attractions, were of the same construction.

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Postby Nathan » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:28 am

You are kidding, right?

Right?

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Postby Nathan » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:18 pm

Well, I mean, I didn't doubt its chickeny past, my incredulity was directed at Nichols and his news. And now I read it's to be housing and retail.

It can't be stated strongly enough -- say what you will within the rubric of race and class and gender politics, those issues fall away when you simply recognize, in my increasingly-less-than humble opinion, that what's killing the livability of this town, and in fact the world, is that there are too many people and they buy too much crap. Kills society, kills the earth. And kills the Derby.

So how do we save this baby? I like to think LAC will take a position.

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Postby SDR » Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:16 pm

And what, physically, would we be saving? An example of a no-longer employed structural system, beautifully exposed to the eye (note the complementary diamond-shaped wall decor), and a gloriously dramatic space.

It wouldn't bother me to see the "Colonial Cottage" portion of the structure replaced (if it still exists) -- but, maybe that's an integral part of the legend, and an example of the local tradition of "anything-goes-together" commercitecture ?!

(Poultritude, indeed. . .!)

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Postby nichols » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:07 pm

Willard's expands their volaille empire to two restaurants in 1926. (Here is their first, on Pico Blvd.)
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*They* build the lamella roofed, country colonial chicken inn that becomes The fourth (fifth if you're Lynxwiler) Brown Derby restaurant in 1941
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In a stroke of genius, Bob Cobb decides to get in on the carhop game that had been springing up all over Los Angeles in the previous decade and adds a "Car Cafe" to the spot.
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The architect on record for the remodeling was Mr. Roland H. Crawford, but Mr. Wayne McAllister himself told me that he designed the restaurant. Since every other fact of his seven decade career he recounted to me has proven true, I can only assume that his involvement was as a consultant or planner or kitchen designer, because as Bob "Big Boy" Wian himself once remarked "...(Wayne) was "the architect" in the drive-in business" Image


Then Michael's Los Feliz was in there from 1960 until about 1992 when The Derby opened in that spot.
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Postby SDR » Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:33 pm

So, the "colonial cottage" (my term) was there from the beginning of the new dome. Would that (office? reception area?) have come from Mr McAllister's hand, do we think? What other sorts of buildings did he design?

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Postby nichols » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:18 pm

I think the Colonial section was the main entrance to Willard's. There were sixteen gajillion "Colonial" or "Plantation" restaurants in Los Angeles in those days... That would be attributed to the 1928 architect, which I don't know. McAllister did some of those type of restaurants too, but he also did glamorous Fred and Ginger style nightclubs, the best of the circular neon drive-ins, steakhouses and supper clubs and sort of invented Las Vegas. I'm presently finishing up a book on his work. His big break came at age 18 when he and his wife designed this hotel: http://community-2.webtv.net/cityofthef ... teTijuana/

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Postby SDR » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:38 pm

Wow. He got an early start (like Wright) and lived to age 92 (also like Wright). Can't wait to see more!

Previous LA architectural chroniclers have apparently missed or ignored McAllister, so your work will be eagerly awaited. (I'm a big Fred and Ginger fan, myself.)

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Postby nichols » Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:03 pm

Looks kind of like a set to me.. but ABC was certainly close by and perhaps they did use it in an episode.. just not the one pictured

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Postby nichols » Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:53 pm

Discussion TONITE at the Neighborhood Council

NEXT MEETING
Wednesday, July 13, 2005  7pm
Los Feliz Community Police Center
1965 Hillhurst Ave. (2nd fl Citibank)



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AGENDA
1. Call to order / Chair’s welcome/ Approval of minutes

2.    Discussion of 4500 Los Feliz  Boulevard and action as appropriate

http://www.ggpnc.org/gg-pzthp.html

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Postby losfeliz » Sun Jul 17, 2005 6:03 pm

Please see my note posted here:


I attended the Griffith Park Neighborhood Council presentation and invited one of the council board members to the meeting Monday night. Cheers, Debra Levine

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Postby Rebgoodman » Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:03 pm

Don't forget to check the thread about upcoming meetings under the Lotta Living Events Forum:
http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic ... 2919#22919

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UPDATE: GGPNC Meeting Last Week

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Postby KYLE » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:09 pm

I THINK YOU MAY FIND THIS INTERESTING:

http://www.luckmedia.com/derby/photogallery.html


‘THE DERBY DAY' IN THE CITY OF L.A.’ ON APRIL 11TH PROCLAIMED BY MAYOR
COUNCILMAN 4TH DISTRICT TOM LaBONGE MAKES PRESENTATIONS
THE DERBY CELEBRATES ITS 10TH ANNIVERSARY IN FINE STYLE

Mayor James K. Hahn and Councilman 4th District Tom LaBonge recognized the 10th Anniversary of The Derby nightclub in Los Feliz, by proclaiming "The Derby Day in the City of Los Angeles." Additionally Councilman LaBonge awarded the "Mayor’s Certificate of Appreciation" to Derby owners Tammi Gower and Tony Gower for their work in bring the historic, but previously blighted location back to prominence as The Derby and thereby sparking the economic resurgence and glamour of the Los Feliz-area of Hollywood. The usual lifespan of a Hollywood nightspot is 2 years, and the Derby celebrated its 10th Anniversary on April 11th with a party, concert with Sam Butera and presentation of the proclamations by the Mayor’s office.

Pictured from left to right: Tony Gower, Tammi Gower, Councilman 4th District Tom LaBonge

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Postby pandaleigh » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:31 pm

Wouldn't it be great to have the old neon Brown Derby sign from the original restaurant installed at the last remaining location? The folks at MONA seem pretty supportive of preservation...I saw the sign in their museum a few weeks ago....

Many thanks to everyone who is working to save the Derby!

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See for yourself: developer's plans

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